© Mark Hertzberg, Simon Evans, and Georgia Lloyd Jones Snoke (2021)
It is understandable, perhaps, that they were sometimes referred to by ‘the others’ in the Valley as ‘the God-Almighty Joneses.” Maginel Wright (Frank Lloyd Wright’s younger sister), in The Valley of the God-Almighty-Joneses, written with Tom Burke (1965).
Frank Lloyd Wright’s Welsh heritage has been well documented, but we now have the opportunity to eavesdrop on new correspondence between two living descendants of those “God-Almighty-Joneses.” They are Georgia Lloyd Jones Snoke of Tulsa, Wright’s first cousin, twice-removed, and her distant cousin Simon Evans, who lives in Wales. Nan, who is referred to on some of these slides, is Mrs. Evans.
The Joneses set foot in America when when Mary Thomas Jones (Mallie) and Richard Jones sailed into New York on December 8, 1844, according to a family history written by Jane Lloyd Jones in October 1870. Mallie and Richard settled in Spring Green in 1856 and then across the river at Hillside in 1863. Family members did not add their mother’s surname of “Lloyd” to their names until they got to America. They were “Jones” in Wales. They left Wales from New Quay for Liverpool, where they sailed for New York.
I have cogitated for weeks how to present this fascinating history. Rather than edit and paraphrase as I originally intended to do, I have decided it best to copy the whole of the current email correspondence between Evans and Snoke, and many of the illustrations in the slide presentation that Evans has painstakingly put together. He lives near the family homesteads in Wales, so his presentation is geared to research he did for his family there. This is a lengthy post, but stick with it…there is a special nugget for fans of PBS television shows, near the end.
This Wright genealogical adventure started when I was researching my book about Penwern, the Fred B. Jones summer estate on Delavan Lake, Wisconsin. Wright designed four buildings for the estate, the main house, the boat house, the gate lodge, and the stable, between 1900 – 1903. One of the important questions I sought to answer was the origin of the name of the estate because there is no definitive documentation about that. It had been written in at least one previous book that “Penwern” is Gaelic for “great house” but that assertion is inaccurate. In fact, “Penwern” is a Cornish or Welsh, not Gaelic, and can mean “near the swamp” or “at the head of the alder tree.” A local botanist has told me that alder trees are native to Delavan Lake.
Jack Holzhueter, a specialist in Wisconsin history, whose areas of interest include Wright’s life and work in the state, was of inestimable help when I worked on the book between 2013 and 2019 when it was published. He introduced me to Snoke. She and I corresponded many times, and she reinforced the idea that the name is seemingly an Anglicization of Pen-y-Wern, the name of Wright’s maternal ancestral home. That notion was also suggested to me by architects and Wright scholars Brian A. Spencer and Tom Heinz.
Snoke and her husband, Ken, traveled to Wales in 2004 and photographed the Pen-y-Wern cottage where Wright’s grandmother Mallie grew up. Holzhueter suggests that perhaps Wright got his American client Jones – not related to Wright’s Jones family – to honor Wright’s maternal family by naming his estate “Penwern.”
© Ken Snoke
Family accounts differ whether another cottage named Pantstreimon was Richard Jones’s home, or Richard and Mallie’s home before they emigrated. The photo is from cousin Chester Lloyd Jones’s 1938 book “Youngest Son.”
I put my research into the Jones / Wright family history aside when my Penwern book was published in June 2019, but I have posted many articles about Penwern and Pen-y-Wern to this website. A welcome surprise landed in my email Inbox on November 25, 2020, asking me to approve a comment on one of those Penwern blog posts. That email brings us to this blog post:
I’m Simon Evans, a distant Cousin of Georgia’s; still living in Wales; and I absolutely loved your article about ‘Penwern’. My great great grandfather on my father’s side was John Thomas, Mary Thomas’ little brother; he set up farm a mile down the valley called Plasllwyd, and survived the destitution and impoverishment of that period; he died a few years after Mallie.
I’m double linked to Georgia since, on my mother’s side my great great gran was Hannah Jones, Richard Jones’ sister. Pantsreimon, the farm next to Penwern, was one of the original strongholds of the Lloyd dynasty; they were the ruling Cast of West Wales for Centuries; Anna was obviously proud of this heritage, hence her use of the Lloyd name.
I put Simon and Georgia in touch with one another, and so, here we are. You may need more than one cup of coffee or tea to follow these threads! The boldfaced portions of these emails are as written by the correspondents.
Georgia Snoke to Simon Evans, November 30, 2020
Back atcha! To properly introduce myself, I am the great granddaughter of the Reverend Jenkin Lloyd Jones. He and his wife Susan were BIG in Unitarian circles and for all I have read about him, he was a ancestor to revere. He had two children, a daughter Mary who never married, and my grandfather Richard who married the Georgia for whom I am named. She was an absolute GEM! I am so proud to bear her name. They, in turn, had three children, Richard Jr., Jenkin (my dad) and Bisser (a “Florence”—my grandmother’s mother’s name—who became “Bisser” when two year old Jenkin couldn’t say “Baby Sister”. She was “Bisser” all her life.)
While Rev. Jenk preached from the pulpit, my grandfather and his progeny preached through a newspaper (CAREFULLY distinguishing between editorial opinion and newspaper fact! They’d have been appalled by today’s press.) They left Wisconsin for the new, raw state of Oklahoma in the late 19 teens when the children were between 9 (Aunt Bis) and 13 (Uncle Dick). All three returned to Wisconsin for college and were great friends with their dad’s cousin Frank, visiting Taliesin frequently on weekends.
My Uncle Dick went into the business side of newspapering and was also president of the American Newspaper Publishers Association; my dad was editor and publisher of the Tulsa Tribune (and syndicated in 140 newspapers), as well as national president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the ASNE (American Society of Newspaper Editors. Upon Uncle Dick’s death, Aunt Bis stepped into his shoes as president of the Tulsa Tribune Company. My two brothers, Jenkin and David, worked full time for the Tribune—Jenkin ending as editor and David as a longtime columnist—and I became a weekly columnist after a few years as a television newscaster.
I go into all this detail to reiterate the difference between newspaper writers and historians… And much of the secondary research I have done comes from “amateurs” who wrote down what they had been told as children. There may be gaffs, but the core is there… Blessings, (distant) cousin Georgia
Simon Evans, On Nov 29, 2020
… I’m not a historian; however, it’s been my hobby since I retired nine years ago; having spent forty years at the forefront of driveline technology in the automotive industry; I retired back to the family farm in Ceredigion; it’s been the family home since 1860; but you’ll see from the family tree; my family’s been in these parts for ever.
I remembered my grandparents telling stories about our extended family; and being the only remaining link to the past; I owed it to my grandkids to research its’ voracity, and get it written down for posterity. Well, word got out, and I was asked to give a talk to the community group.
It ended up being a two-hour Power-Point presentation; and it went down a storm!!
Other Historical Societies heard about it; so, I’ve been busy for the past two years, giving the talk here there and everywhere it seemed; my favourite venue had to be the Great Hall at Lampeter University; the third oldest University in the UK; that really had atmosphere.
The Power-Point file is nearly 300MB; not exactly email size; but what I’ve been doing is to break it up into smaller segments in PDF format and to get under the email Limbo limit.
The two files I’ve attached here are: A fun file I created for the Grandkids showing them that their timid little Nan was a distant cousin of our queen; it gets across quite succinctly, the huge influence the Lloyd family had in these parts.
The other one is a file I prepared for our Parish Council for their annual Walk for Life initiative; they were going to walk the Aber Loop and wanted me to highlight places of interest along the way; the walk goes quite close to Blaenralltddu; but it’ll give you a taste of the amazing history that lurks in the shadows of a non-descript little backwater of West Wales.
I’ll have to do a bit of massaging on the other elements to make them attachment size; please bear with me.
However; the attached is a taster; enjoy.
Georgia Snoke 29 November 2020:
I am absolutely cock-a-hoop with your information, and I embrace you and yours as cousins.
I was very fortunate to have had two splendid Welshmen, one a descendant of Mallie’s family, provide an enormous amount of research to our branch. One was John Jenkins (sadly deceased) and one was Ifan James, a Mallie descendant. Ifan gave three days of his life to Ken and me in 2004 and took us all over “our” part of Wales. I am enclosing an excerpt of those days in the “Black Spot” for your amusement.
Again, so MANY thanks for your extraordinary offerings. What a joy to “meet” you, Cousin!
Georgia Snoke 29 November 2020:
Dear “Cousin” Simon:
What a wonderful Thanksgiving gift to receive your email. I am very excited about “meeting” you and look forward to all you may share about the Lloyds. Our family has always known that Richard and Mallie were “Jones” in Wales, but the family story is when they reached Wisconsin there were so many Welsh Joneses they took their mother’s maiden name as a prefix. For certain sure, I, for one, claim the Lloyd name with pride and sign my passport Georgia Lloyd Jones Snoke. Some in that second generation (my great grandfather’s–the Reverend Jenkin Lloyd Jones—) wrote the two names with a hyphen; some used periods, some (the eldest) merely used Jones. But most of us in communication now use the Lloyd as well as the Jones.
A wonderful cousin named Jix (Richard) Lloyd Jones did considerable research on the Lloyds. I have created a gigantic book filled with various essays—his included—but, like my own essays, I can’t always be sure his facts are accurate. None of us speak Welsh these days. He died about three years ago. What a wonderful, wonderful man!
We Ll-J’s would treasure any information you wish to share. In fact, I am the “editor” of the annual Unity Chapel newsletter and I would love to include anything you wish to impart. With full credit to you, of course.
And if you are interested, I would be more than happy to send you a little booklet that I have put together for the next generations. All I need is your address.
My husband and I have visited Wales several times, always with a stop at Alt-y-roden (sorry about the spelling. I don’t have my notebooks in front of me.) Pant-y-Dafaid, Blaen-yr-allt-ddu, etc.
In fact, one of the funniest coincidences of my life occurred far from Wales. My husband and I were getting ready to take a ship to the Mediterranean. It was disembarking from Cadiz. We had come a day early, so husband Ken took the rental car to its home and I started unpacking in our cabin. Over the intercom came an invitation to passengers already on board to join in a luncheon buffet—which sound much more fun than unpacking. So there was this little lady from Tulsa, Oklahoma standing in line when the two gentlemen behind me introduced themselves to one another.
“Hello. My name is David…” “Hello, MY name is David…” So I, who had a brother named David, quipped over my shoulder, “David is a great name. Dewi Sant would be proud.”
There was a pause, and then the “David” with the British accent said, “Dewi Sant? What you you know of Dewi Sant?” Blush! So I turned to them, introduced myself, and explained that I didn’t really know much about Dewi Sant—just that he was the patron saint of Wales and I only knew that because some of my ancestors came from Wales.
From the fellow with the British accent. “Oh. That’s interesting. Where did they settle?” “Wisconsin.” “Where in Wisconsin?” “Ummm…south central Wisconsin.” Then came the coup de grace:
“Have you ever heard of the Valley of the God-Almighty Joneses?” By this time I was gaping. “That’s my FAMILY! My great-grandfather was the Reverend Jenkin Lloyd-Jones!” “Oh yes, yes, yes. He was the uncle of Frank Lloyd Wright.” And it turned out that this particular David (Barnes) was one of the Lindblad expert guides to the Mediterranean, but he was Welsh and had written his doctoral thesis about religious dissenters in Wales. A whole chapter was devoted to my Lloyd ancestors. Later, I asked David if I could get a copy of his thesis to read. Someone else asked him its title and he said, People of Seion. I gulped and said, “David, it’s already in my library.”
(Re: The Valley of the God-Almighty Joneses: That is a book written by Frank Lloyd Wright’s little sister, Maginel Wright Barney, in which she chronicles the stories passed down through the family of Wales and Wisconsin. The title has become affixed to the Valley where the Lloyd-Jones’ Unity Chapel is and the whole family inhabited.)
Long story short, David has remained a friend and about three years ago we hired him to take Ken and me, my niece and nephew, and our daughter for a week’s trip to Wales. What a glorious time!
As I say, that was a truly amazing exchange. Just as it is wonderful that you’ve contacted Mark and I will have a chance to learn yet more from you. I hope you are willing.
On November 29 I wrote Georgia, asking her to summarize the family tree for me:
Richard Lloyd Jones, my grandfather, was named for his grandfather Richard who, with his wife Mallie (Mary Thomas) and their seven children, made the voyage to America. One of their sons, my great grandfather, the Reverend Jenkin Lloyd Jones was the brother of one of their daughters, Anna Lloyd Wright. Their sons (Richard and Frank) were therefore first cousins. Frank built my grandparents’ home, Westhope, in Tulsa. I knew it well as I stayed there whenever my parents went out of town.
I call Richard and Mallie the first (American) generation.
Reverend Jenkin, Anna Lloyd Wright, and 9 siblings were born. One, Nany, died as a child) — They made up the second generation.
The third included my grandfather, Richard, and his cousin Frank.
The 4th—my dad, aunt and uncle of the “Jenkin line”
My dad’s kids—me, my two brothers, sundry cousins—5th generation
Our kids and grandkids — 6th and 7th. Time flies when you’re having fun.
Does that give you the family “tree”? Of course, the 2nd generation farm families had a passel of kids—which is why the “Aunts” (Nell and Jennie) used their skills as teacher to begin Hillside Home School. They never married and Margaret survived her two sons and two husbands, but the rest of the family was ore or less awash in kids. The third generations focussed on education. They spread far out from Spring Green. It wasn’t until the death of actress Ann Baxter’s mother (a daughter of Frank) that the family began to coalesce around the abandoned Unity Chapel. Branch by branch we made re- connection. Now every five years (except this year) a reunion draws us together.
Hope this helps sort us out, Mark. Blessings to you! G…
I have, indeed, made connection with Simon Evans and he is, indeed, a (distant) relative. Furthermore, he has a gazillion stories to tell about the Lloyds (from whence the “Lloyd” of Lloyd-Jones and Lloyd Wright comes.) He is a delight, and I’d have utterly missed out had you not given me that nudge. Thank you, thank you my friend! Georgia
Georgia to Mark, December 3:
I absolutely loved Westhope [the house that Wright designed for her grandfather, Wright’s cousin Richard Lloyd Jones, in Tulsa]. More or less growing up in a Frank Lloyd Wright house spoiled me. There is a family story that Frank was supposed to design its furniture, too, but the man he sent to oversee its construction spent that money on his family. It was the Depression. No one sued, but the only furniture my grandparents’ got was a fabulous desk with crawl through space beneath for us young children. (It now resides, as I recall, at the Metropolitan Museum in New York.) When my great grandmother in Eau Claire died, her plush Victorian furniture was brought to Oklahoma. Aunt Bis always said that the Victorian furniture “softened” the angularity of the architecture. She saw the house through several different owners and never liked any of their furniture in comparison.
It was my beloved Aunt Bis who really introduced the Lloyd Jones family to me. As I said to Simon, the Jenkin line in Tulsa, Oklahoma was pretty isolated from other branches. Aunt Bis saw an article on Elizabeth Wright (FLlW granddaughter), and dropped a note to her. That introduced us to the Anna line. But when the mother of Liz’ cousin, actress Ann Baxter, died, the idea of checking on “the dear old chapel” in Spring Green, WI was raised. There was a 1979 picnic at Tan-y-deri that my dad took Ken, our girls and me to. From that came the formation of Unity Chapel, Inc. I’ve twice served as its president as well as multiple times as board member. Both my girls are on the board today.
Meanwhile, I became hooked on Lloyd Jones history. I would come to board meetings a couple of days early and spend them in the newspaper archives at the Wisconsin State Historical Society. That led me to all sorts of other research. It has been a wonderfully fulfilling episode in my life, and I probably know more about the second generation (my great grandfather’s) than anyone now living. I came to admire them hugely. For the most part, they were farm folks, but their drive and curiosity and creativity were astounding. And even in that second generation you had two extraordinary female educators and an internationally known minister.
Georgia to Mark December 7
Mark: the first cottage is Blaen-yr-allt-ddu (my spelling is suspect) where my great grandfather (the Rev.) Jenkin was born. The family landed in New York a year later. The plaque on the wall commemorates his birth there, put up by Chicago parishioners following Jenkin’s death. The cottage has been much expanded since then.
The white cottage continues to puzzle me. It is charming…and far different from the Pen-y-wern stone (and forbidding-looking) structure whose picture Ken took. The white cottage is identified as Pen-y-Wern in Chester Lloyd Jones’ book, Youngest Son (about his father Enos, last of the 1st generation flock.) And yet when Ifan James took Ken and me around family structures in 2004, it was the dark and dour tall stone building he identified as Pen-y-Wern. And that’s what the sign says!
Wait! It was Ifan James who took Ken and me to dark and dreary Pen-y-Wern. It was his dear friend, colleague, and terrific researcher into Ll-J materials John Jenkins who made corrections for other photos in Chester’s book, but slid right over the i.d. of the white cottage. John had died by our 2004 visit—a great loss. As a surmise, he knew Pen-y-Wern as Mallie’s birthplace but never actually saw it. If Chester identified the white cottage as such, John may have accepted his i.d.. Who knows? I am so sorry to have totally lost contact with Ifan James. I don’t even know if he is still alive.
Simon: When Ken and I, in the company of Ifan, met the couple who owned Pen-y-Wern they were cordial…Their children were not interested in farming. They didn’t know what the future would bring. I don’t know if they are still there. But I wonder if there is a historical society in the area that could identify the white cottage? Could be worth a try? As I said, I’ve been puzzled by that photo in Chester’s book for years.
Much of Simon’s presentation touches on the family’s strong ties to the Unitarian religion. Economic hardship and the quest for religious freedom spurred Mallie and Richard to emigrate to America.
The Rebecca Riots were Welsh resistance to the imposition of tolls on roads in Wales. According to Wikipedia, the ringleaders of the resistance were sent to Australia as convicts, but the toll gates were dismantled in time when it was determined that they were an obstacle to free trade.
There is one more tantalizing discovery…the Royal Family is related to the Lloyds.
So, now we have a link between Frank Lloyd Wright’s family and the House of Windsor, the Royal Family of Great Britain (something that the producers of Masterpiece Theater and “The Crown” have overlooked)! What think you, should the Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation, the Frank Lloyd Wright Building Conservancy and Other Things Wright send a post to Buckingham Palace, inviting them to join their ranks or at least send a few pounds and shillings their way? After all, Prince of Charles, you know, the Prince of WALES (!) is keenly interested in architecture!
A commemorative plaque was unveiled in 1922 at Jenkin Lloyd Jones’s birthplace:
Georgia and Simon have taken us on a remarkable journey. It begins with a couple seeking better fortunes and religious tolerance and ends with their grandson, an architect who spent his summers in the valley of “the God-Almighty Joneses,” whose work is revered to this day. I leave you with photographs I have taken at Unity Chapel, the family chapel across the road from Wright’s beloved Taliesin. I also thank Keiran Murphy for her assistance with this blog post (and countless other projects of mine!). I joke, but am not far off the mark, when I tell people that she likely knows more about Taliesin and Frank Lloyd Wright than he did.
This is where the family gathers every five years for a reunion (when there is no pandemic…2020 was canceled). Perhaps Simon and Nan can join them in the future!